Jefferson - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Allen, Holbert A., and Benjamin F. Harris 1850 US Census

rockyj74426 — 2010-03-17 16:04:13Z

Holbert A. Harris indeed moved to Newton county, Arkansas, and died in August, 1862, while a member of the 2nd Arkansas Infantry Regiment (USA); however, I'm told his brother Benjamin F. Harris remained in Alabama, and served with the 18th Alabama Sharpshooter Battalion.

Holbert A Harris (1819-1862) had two sons, the eldest named Benjamin F. Harris and the younger named Richard Asa Harris.

Re: Need an Obit look up

kimhughes507 — 2010-03-17 12:31:26Z

Glad I could help.

Kim

Re: Need an Obit look up

madameclerk1989 — 2010-03-17 01:58:14Z

Thank you so much, this gives me a couple of other leads. I really appreciate your kindness.

Re: Doherty, Jefferson County, Al.

kimhughes507 — 2010-03-17 00:01:32Z

You may already have this information, but Michael Doherity (sp) died March 15, 1935 in Jefferson County, AL. He was buried at Elmwood Cemetery on March 18, 1935. His death certificate # is 5961. He was born about 1868 according to info on the death certificate.

I found that info online and have not looked for Edmond yet. I will try to find an obit for him when I go back to the Birmingham Library. Do you want a copy?

Kim Self Hughes

Re: Rogers Cemetery or Haig-Rogers Cemetery in Morris

kimhughes507 — 2010-03-16 23:53:28Z

Melissa,
I have photos of all the headstones in the Haig-Rogers Cemetery. If there is a Crim or Green buried there, they are in un-marked graves. There is an Alfred E. Rogers (Dec 22, 1873 - Feb 15, 1943) buried there, along with an Alice J. Rogers (March 13, 1874 - Dec 31, 1951).

If you haven't found the cemetery, I can give you directions.

Kim Self Hughes

Re: Warrior City Cemetery photo request

kimhughes507 — 2010-03-16 23:43:20Z

I live near the cemetery and can take photos if you still need them. Just let me know.

I have a survey of the cemetery done by Robin Sterling. The dates on the headstones are:
Louie E. Fleming (Sept 5, 1901 - Aug 5, 1929) - son of H.M. and Emma Fleming
Stanley A. Fleming (April 7, 1905 - April 15, 1953)

Kim Self Hughes

Re: Obit

kimhughes507 — 2010-03-16 20:34:30Z

PROBST, CAROL S., age 62, of Bessemer, died January 9, 2003. She was a member of American Legion Post 119, Brighton. Graveside Services will be held Tuesday, January 14, at 2 p.m. at Highland Memorial Gardens. Buba Justice officiating. Visitation will be held Tuesday, January 14, from 11 a.m. until 1 p.m. at the funeral home. Survivors: husband, Howard Probst; son, Michael (Melanie) Probst, both of Bessemer; grandchildren, Harley Howard Probst, Michael, Butch and Bill Chrissman. Bessemer Brown Service directing.
- published in "The Birmingham News" on January 11, 2003, page 7D

Re: Cemetery: Bethel in Trafford, Al

kimhughes507 — 2010-03-16 20:22:35Z

Did you ever find what you were looking for with this post? I live near Bethel Cemetery and will be glad to send photos of headstones to you.

Kim Self Hughes

Re: Obit for John P. Franklin

kimhughes507 — 2010-03-16 20:17:56Z

John Powell Franklin's obituary was in "The Birmingham News" on December 28, 1953, page 16. You can contact the Birmingham Public Library and they will send you a copy for $5.

Obit Look up please

JanDishon65 — 2010-03-16 20:00:34Z

Is anyone willing to look for three obits for me? All I know is that they died in Jefferson County.

Estella McFerrin died Oct. 6, 1942

Elizabeth McFerrin January 1925

Elizabeth McFerrin July 25, 1922

These were all listed in Alabama Deaths, 1908-59 but since no birthdates were given I am not sure which Elizabeth I need so have to ask for both.

Thank you.
Jan Dishon
Shelton, WA

Re: Look up

rhondadial2 — 2010-03-16 19:43:47Z

My grandmother, Ina Gilchrist (married name became Dial)was born in Mississippi in around 1909 and her mother was Annalee Tittle and she married John Gilchrist. I know nothing about the Tittle family or the Gilchrist family so any and all information you can give me would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Rhonda

Re: Archie and Christine Tittle

rhondadial2 — 2010-03-16 19:43:04Z

Re: Obit Needed LAWRENCE B RAGLAND

kimhughes507 — 2010-03-16 18:14:49Z

I did a search for him in the 2000 Birmingham News and nothing came up.

Re: OBITUARY REQUEST - HUBERT B. WALKER

kimhughes507 — 2010-03-16 18:03:25Z

There is no obituary for him in the Birmingham newspapers.

Re: Obituary of William Frederick COBB, 1 Aug 1973

kimhughes507 — 2010-03-16 17:50:08Z

His obituary was published in "The Birmingham News" paper on August 5, 1973, page 34A. You can go through the Birmingham Public Library website and do a request for an obituary. I believe it costs $5.

Re: Need an Obit look up

kimhughes507 — 2010-03-16 17:40:34Z

PARKER, MRS. IRENE MERTICE age 70, of Adamsville died Thursday, January 27, 1994. Graveside service will be Saturday at 10:00 a.m. in Elmwood Cemetery. Visitation will be Friday from 5:30 to 8 p.m. at the funeral home. Elmwood Chapel directing. Survivors: son, John Parker, Jr. of Birmingham; daughter, Susan Henry of Adamsville; four grandchildren; brother, Wayman Carroll of Mesa, Arizona; sisters, Hazel Yarborough of Hartselle, Mildred Allen, and Beulah Ryan, both of Birmingham, Yita Marshman of Homewood.
- published in The Birmingham News" on January 27,1994

Need an Obit look up

madameclerk1989 — 2010-03-16 03:04:34Z

Is there anyone who could look up an obit for me for Mertice C. Parker? She died in Adamsville, Jefferson County Alabama 24 Jan, 1994.
I think she may have been married to my father at one time.
Thank you.

Albert W. Ray marriage record

CLHay — 2010-03-15 16:13:39Z

Would someone help me with a lookup of a marriage record for a Albert W. Ray in Jefferson county on October 23, 1943. I need to know who he married on this date.

Re: Trussville Obits

WoodruffMark — 2010-03-14 19:28:19Z

Thank you so much! I located a 2006 obit for George Clark a few days ago, but it listed Johnnie Whisenhunt as a "surviving" sister, so I did not know if I had found the right Whisenhunt. This confirms what I had found.

Thanks again!

Re: Trussville Obits

MelissaPaulk15 — 2010-03-14 18:03:08Z

Located the obit on genealogybank.com

Birmingham News (AL) - December 10, 1998
Deceased Name: WHISENHUNT, MRS. JOHNNIE
WHISENHUNT, MRS. JOHNNIE, age 72 of Trussville, AL died December 9, l998. She is survived by son, William (Martha) Whisenhunt of Trussville, AL; grandchildren, Tonja (Letty) Whisenhunt of Montevallo; numerous nieces and nephews; brother, George Clark of Pell City; sister, Mary Sellers of Cahaba Heights. Funeral service will be held at Roebuck East Chapel on Friday, December 11, l998 at 2 p.m. Burial will be at Jefferson Memorial East. Visitation: 5:30 to 8 p.m. at the Chapel. Roebuck East Chapel directing.Page: 06-D

Whisenhunt Woodruff, Woolf

WoodruffMark — 2010-03-13 17:30:08Z

Sometime on the 1970's, a lady named Johnnie Mae Whisenhunt came to Arkansas in search of my Grandfather John Grover Cleveland Woodruff. She was a descendant of one of my grandfather's sisters and was putting together a family tree (The old way where it was truly difficult) Ms. Whisenhunt brought my grandfather back to Trussville for a few weeks, but after she brought him back home to Arkansas, no one has had any contact with the Alabama part of the family since. My Grandfather passed away in 1979 and no one else had any way of staying in contact with Ms. Whisenhunt.

I am trying to locate her or any of her descendants who may have the family tree information. I have found a SS death record for a Johnnie M. Whisenhunt who lived in Trussville, Al, but that is all I can find.

My Great Grandfather was John W. Woodruff married to Mary McCurly Presswood. They lived in Oaklevel Cleburne Co. in 1880 with child Margaret (Maggie).

In 1900 They were in Polk Co. Georgia with children Dove, Grover, Jefferson, Turner, and Hattie. Maggie either lived in the same house or next door with husband Nat Woolf, and children Lula and May Bell.

In 1910 my grandfather Grover lived in Lincoln Parish Louisiana as the head of house, along with his parents John W. and Mary, brother Turner, sister Hattie Swain, Hattie's daughter Clara Belle, and his deceased sister Maggie Woolf's youngest child Maggie E. Woolf.

Along the way we lost all contact with the following:
We have no idea who was the parents of John W. Woodruff born 1849-1858.
There was a 7th child of John W. and Mary Woodruff who we have no idea of their name due to the 1890 census being destroyed.
Jefferson Woodruff left home after 1900 and was never heard from again, story direct from my grandfather.
Dove Woodruff disappeared after 1900. Probably married. We did find a Dove Forehand who married about the right time, but not sure.

I have no idea how Johnnie Mae Whisenhunt ties into the family but with the missing members, it is very important to me.

Thanks in advance! I did type this up in paragraphs, but it is posting how it wants to.

Trussville Obits

WoodruffMark — 2010-03-13 17:00:15Z

OK after 3 days of frustrating searches and links to pay sites with no information, maybe someone here could offer suggestions.

I need an obit for a Johnnie M. Whisenhunt. The date of death is 9 Dec 1998, last known residence according to the SS death index was Trussville Alabama.

Thanks in advance

Re: RCL aka Robert Lee Clinton

Ellen_Howell — 2010-03-08 17:44:34Z

Margie,
I knew that RCL was son of Wm and Rebecca Latham Lenoir, sorry I wrote Ann, and he did die June 10, 1935 in Whiteville, NC. He was my brother in law's father. He was married to Alice Davis first and had daughter Dixie, divorced he married 2nd Susie Harris and had 8 kids, he left them all taking all the monies etc and went to Florida where he married Rhetta Suggs, a much younger lady and she is my brother in law's mother. He was a terrible person, his history reads like the worse nightmare you ever had.

RCL aka Robert Lee Clinton

Margie_Smitherman — 2010-03-08 17:07:13Z

Ellen,
RC Lenoir son of William & Ann Lenoir was Robert Calvin Lenoir b. 11 November 1820 died 16 November 1891 and is buried at Isabella Church Cemetery. The Robert C Lenoir who later changed his name to Robert Lee Clinton was born 1863 died 1915 was NOT the son of William & Ann Lenoir but was a grandson. Robert C Lenoir b. 1863 was the son of William Thomas Lenoir b. 1835 & Rebecca Latham. William Thomas Lenoir b. 1835 was a son of William & Ann Lenoir. The RCL that you are referring to was actually a nephew of Robert Calvin Lenoir b. 11 Nov 1820.

Re: Birth Cirtificate?

Ellen_Howell — 2010-03-05 22:49:21Z

Denise,
I might add that we have found all about our RCL. He was son of William and Ann Lenoir and his name was Robert Clinton Lenoir aka Robert Lee Clinton. He changed his name after leaving Maplesville and his wife and children. He was a peach!!!

Re: Birth Cirtificate?

Margie_Smitherman — 2010-03-05 22:34:03Z

They are both from the same family. One is a descendant of William & Ann Lenoir through son William Thomas Lenoir b. 1832 & Rebecca Latham. The other is also a descendant of William & Ann Lenoir through son Robert Calvin Lenoir b. 11 Nov 1820 & Emmaline Jones. I have information on both. I descend from William & Ann Lenoir's daugther Martha Ann Lenoir Hicks. My Great Aunt was married to one of the Great Grandson's of Robert Calvin Lenoir b. 1820

Re: Birth Cirtificate?

Margie_Smitherman — 2010-03-05 22:27:08Z

Cheryl, you listed that Herman Lenoir's mother had married an Allen, what was his first name and when/where did they marry? I have not been able to locate Alpha Emeline "Emma" Lenoir after the 1880 US Chilton Co., AL. Census in which she was listed as age 13.

Re: Joshua Brown

usamom99 — 2010-03-03 16:48:37Z

May have info. Can you please email me off-list at
usamom 99 @hotmail.com (remove the spaces)

Thanks!

Re: looking for cousins

gcole5284 — 2010-03-02 22:49:18Z

I am Flossie and Steve's grandaughter, Gina. Stevie is my mom.

Searching for information on John T Adams

PAdams44 — 2010-02-28 02:08:01Z

Hello,

I am searching for any information on my g-great grandfather - John Thomas Adams, born 1820-1821 in Alabama. he moved to texas - Leon County -around 1845-1850. Leon County is close to Robertson, Houston, Madison, Liberty Counties.

He married a Nancy Marshall - their children were - James T. , Wm. Clinton, and Sally Rose Adams.

If anyone has any connections or information, please contact me.
Thank you,
P. Adams

Re: Marriage Record - Almon D. Ashburn Nov 1959 - 37 years old

jimnerma — 2010-02-27 02:58:55Z

Jane, thank you so very much. I really appreciate it.

Jim Williams

Re: Marriage Record - Almon D. Ashburn Nov 1959 - 37 years old

jjanebob — 2010-02-27 01:58:13Z

Marriages, Birmingham Jefferson County, AL
Book 249 page 173
Almon Davis Ashburn
3415 9th Ave., Bessemer, Jefferson County, AL.
Date of Birth 7-24-1921,Grand Salina, Texas
Age 38 White
Widower
1 previous marriage
Occupation: Scale Repairman
Father: William Thomas Ashburn
Mother: Susie Loretta Ashburn
and
Betty Jo Hart
2410 15th Ave., Birmingham, Jefferson County, AL

Date of Birth 1-31-29, Birmingham, AL. Age 30
White, Divorced, 1 previous marriage
Father: Joseph Roper Hart
Mother: Donie Lela Hart
Married at the Courthouse 2 Nov. 1959

Note: A marriage license for this couple issued
10-15-1958 Book 244 Page 183 is marked:
"Returned unexecuted. New License issued 11-2-59"

Jane in Birmingham

Re: William Logan

lianathomp — 2010-02-23 21:53:13Z

Hello,

This information is very helpful to me. Thank you! I know it has been 10 years since you posted this, but any more information you might have would be greatly appreciated.

William Logan is my great grandfather. My grandmother is Helen, William and Aramintha's daughter.

My dad actually has a copy of William's birth certificate from England. I'll try to scan it when I can.

Thanks so much!

Re: Kennedy, Laurens County, SC

airartiste — 2010-02-19 18:24:16Z

I am a descendant of the Whitten Family from Laurens County, SC, and have some info that I would be happy to share. dru@drublair.com

Kennedy, Jefferson County, AL

2010-02-19 18:23:09Z

My greatgrandmother was named Sarah Francis Kennedy. She was married to James Austin Whitten, Sr., presumably in SC. This would have been in the area of Laurens, 96, etc.

I have reason to believe that her father was named Tom Kennedy, and her brother, Will, or vice-versa.

These Kennedys and Whittens moved to Alabama in the 1890's. They lived in the western part of Jefferson County. James Austin Whitten, Sr., was killed in a mining accident. Sarah Frances Kennedy Whitten, called Fanny, is buried with my grandmother and grandfather at Elmwood Cemetery in Birmingham, AL.

Re: Need to find cousin

Carleton40 — 2010-02-19 16:34:46Z

Thank you so much, but I found her just a few months ago and have made contact. I hope to meet her next month!

Re: Need to find cousin

ggfor41 — 2010-02-18 06:20:26Z

I believe this is who you are looking for:

Patricia P. Stanford
898 Delcris Dr
Birmingham, AL 35226-1916

Kennedy 1900 Census Jefferson County, Alabama.

cjnadell — 2010-02-16 19:16:09Z

My greatgrandmother was named Sarah Francis Kennedy Whitten. She was called Fannie. She was married to James Austin Whitten, Sr., in South Carolina, where she was born. In about 1890, she and many in her family moved from the Abbeville/Laurens area of SC to Jefferson County, Alabama.

I have been at a loss to identify any of her family, but using the 1900 Census, as I did today, I think I have made some headway. According to this Census, there was a Bolliver Kennedy living in Jefferson County in 1900, who was born in South Carolina, as were both his parents. I looked at the census page, and I am not sure about the spelling of his name. This is the way the Census transcribers spelled it, and it IS something like that. In 1900, he was 74 years old, having been born in 1826. His wife was name Mary, and she too was born in SC, as were both of her parents. She was 62, having been born in 1837. Also living in the household was a son, Thomas B. Kennedy, was 34 years old.

What makes me think that this is Fannie Kennedy's family, other than the fact that they were all born in SC, and that they lived in the right section of Jefferson County, and that the ages are right, is that I know there is a Thomas B. Kennedy associated with her.

I had thought that Thomas B. Kennedy was her father, and maybe her father was named Thomas Bolliver Kennedy, but just used the Bolliver in the Census.

According to my father's cousin, who remembers them some, Thomas B. Kennedy was married to Molly, and had sons named Will and Tom, and a daughter named Maude. Perhaps there was a daughter named Fannie, or perhaps that name referred to his sister. I am not sure.

These people lived in west Jefferson County, in the area known as Powderly. The older Kennedy was an iron-ore miner, and died, according to my father's cousin, of face cancer.

James Austin Whitten, Sr., died in a mining accident in 1893. Sometime after that, Fannie Kennedy Whitten took her three small children, Susie A, Mamie, and Austin, back to Laurens, SC to keep house for her father-in-law. In the 1900 Census, they were all living with him, C.T. Whitten, in Laurens. He was apparently very difficult to get along with, and several years after that, all four of them moved back to Jefferson County.

Sometime soon after 1900, Mamie Whitten, who was my grandmother, married my grandfather, Arthur Gardiner, and the rest, as they say, is history.

I would be interested in hearing from anyone who knows anything about any of these people.

Thanks!

Re: Kennedy SC 1900 Census

paulmhmd — 2010-02-16 15:27:54Z

I hope you are still around! I think I can clear some of this up for you. Michael Bolivar Kennedy was my 3GGF. He was born in Abbeville SC in 1826, son of Michael and Agness Carlile Kennedy (I can get you more on them). Michael's first wife was Eliza M. Barksdale. I am descended from their daughter, Mary Jane "Mollie" Kennedy. In 1856, Eliza Barksdale died in childbirth and M. B. Kennedy later married a cousin of Eliza, Mary Frances Barksdale in 1862. They had 2 children that I know of, Thomas B. Kennedy, b. Jan 1866 and Sarah F. Kennedy, b. c1863. I have no more on Sarah, but wonder if she is your "Fannie". Michael B. Kennedy moved to Birmingham in late 1800's and died in 1909. His son, Thomas B. moved with him. He apparently married a Mollie and had at least 4 children, Maude; Thomas B., Jr.; William D. and Fannie (check 1920 US Census for Jefferson County, AL), which all fits with your cousin's memory. Thomas B. apparently died in 1924 and his wife Mollie in 1937 (I haven't confirmed this, it could be an amazing coincidence, but likely I have the right ones).

Re: Kennedy SC 1900 Census

cjnadell — 2010-02-16 15:27:33Z

I really don't know. What I did was go through Census reports and list the Kennedys that I found year by year in the Census. Since wives' maiden names aren't listed there, I just don't know.

If you know the name of any particular Kennedy man who would have been listed in any Census between 1800 and 1900, in those counties of SC, I can find him in my material, but I don't have Smiths. If you know the wife's first name, I might be able to find it, depending on her name!

Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

Re: Kennedy

RickySmith22 — 2010-02-16 15:27:11Z

Caroline:

Do you have a connection between the Smith's and Kennedys, If, so please explain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Kennedy SC 1900 Census

cjnadell — 2010-02-16 15:26:52Z

Thanks, Tom.

There may be a connection there, but I don't know what it is.

Just where is Union, SC?

My Whitten and Kennedy ancestors all seem associated with the area around Abbeville/Edgefield/Laurens/96, SC.

Caroline

Re: Kennedy SC 1900 Census

TKennedy8572 — 2010-02-16 15:26:21Z

Caroline I have seen a Thomas B. Kennedy on the family Tree of one William kennedy and Mary Ann Brandon.
But I beleive that the B stands for Brandon, ther were also some Whttickers that married in to that family.
This particular family lived in Union South Carolina.
Thomas B Kennedy was Married to an Elizabeth Potter They had ten children, but the names of those children were not listed under that head of house-hold, that I have.
Good Luck
Tom Kennedy

Re: obit for Marshall L. Newport

byrlich — 2010-02-16 14:46:56Z

Thank you so much for taking the time to help find the obit. It is greatly appreciated.
Susan

Re: Hunter m Kennedy AL

2010-02-16 01:29:02Z

hi, i am looking for Louisa Kennedy(my great grandma) and her sister Malinda Kennedy. They lived in alabama and they both married men with the last name Hunter. My e-mail address is lucky.one@verizon.net
thank you

Re: obit for Marshall L. Newport

jjanebob — 2010-02-16 00:25:21Z

The Birmingham News, January 8, 2001, page 7C

Newport, Marshall L., 76, of Tarrant City, AL, died January 7, 2001. He was born in Birmingham and lived here all his life. After graduating from Phillips High, he joined the Air Corps and piloted B-24's in WWII. He worked at ACIPCO as a blacksmith for 37 years. He was a member of Aldersgate UMC in Homewood. He was also a Mason and a member of The American Legion.
He is survived by his wife of 46 years, Rose Alford Newport; and three sons, Marshall, Neal and David, as well as four grandchildren and life long friends, George and Betty Chiles. His sons will always remember him as a fine "scratch foreman."
Visitation will be Monday, January 8, 2001, at Roebuck Chapel from 6 to 8 p.m. Graveside service will be held at Elmwood Tuesday, January 9, at 1:00 p.m.
In lieu of flowers, the family requests memorials be made to Aldersgate UMC in Homewood. Ridout's Roebuck Chapel directing.

From Jane in Birmingham

Re: obit help

byrlich — 2010-02-15 19:28:27Z

Thank you so much for your help. It is greatly appreciated.
Susan

Re: obit help

melissahogan62 — 2010-02-15 15:14:55Z

BYRLICH,

Note that the index referenced in a previous reply does NOT extend to 2001. More recent Bham News obituaries (approx. 1993 forward) can be accessed via Newsbank IF your library has a subscription OR via genealogybank.com if YOU have a subscription... that said, here you go:

Birmingham News (AL) - January 8, 2001
Deceased Name: NEWPORT, MARSHALL L.
NEWPORT, MARSHALL L., 76, of Tarrant City, AL, died January 7, 2001. He was born in Birmingham and lived here all his life. After graduating from Phillips High, he joined the Air Corps and piloted B-24's in WW II. He worked at ACIPCO as a blacksmith for 37 years. He was a member of Aldersgate UMC in Homewood. He was also a Mason and a member of The American Legion. He is survived by his wife of 46 years, Rose Alford Newport; and three sons, Marshall, Neal and David, as well as four grandchildren and life long friends, George and Betty Chiles. His sons will always remember him as one fine "scratch foreman".

Visitation will be Monday, January 8, 2001, at Roebuck Chapel from 6 to 8 p.m. Graveside service will be held at Elmwood Tuesday, January 9, at 1:00 p.m. In lieu of flowers, the family requests memorials be made to Aldersgate UMC in Homewood. Ridout's Roebuck Chapel directing.

Page: 07-C

Melissa
Birmingham Genealogical Society

Re: obit help

byrlich — 2010-02-08 23:55:01Z

I searched the database and did not find the obit. Thank you for your time.
Susan

Re: obit help

baileypr11 — 2010-02-08 22:36:39Z

If you will send the date and the name of the newspaper in which the obit appeared -- and it's one that is available on the microfilm at the Birmingham Public Library -- I will try to find it for you.

SOME newspapers are on microfilm and if you've ever worked with that medium, you know it's a slow process. Once located, the particular obit is "tweaked" to produce as good a hard copy print as possible. Then it's transcribed to the computer and posted. This is a time-consuming task.

You will find an obituary index in the databases section of the Jefferson County Library Cooperative's website.

Good luck!