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Pyburn/Choate Marriages

ShawnMartin58 (View posts)
Posted: 29 Jun 2000 10:17PM GMT
Edited: 30 Jun 2001 12:56AM GMT
I have a Naomi Pyburn dau. of Edward and Rebecca Neely Pyburn married Austin Choate, Jr. Abt. 1802 in N. Carolina. Elizabeth Naomi Pyburn b. Abt. 1753 dau. of Jacob Pyburn m. Austin Choate, Sr. in Lunenburg Co., VA 1774. Nancy Pyburn b. Abt. 1779 m. Christopher Choate in Washington Co., VA Bet. 1789-1795. Can anyone tell me a little about the Pyburn/Choate connections? There were branches of the Choate families in SC, NC, TN, KY, MS, LA, TX, AR and MO. It seems that the Pyburns were in the same places.

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MichaelDavis611 (View posts)
Posted: 15 Jul 2000 8:41PM GMT
Edited: 24 Jun 2001 3:07AM GMT
I am descended from Austin Choate Oma Pyburn through their son Edward another line through his daughter
Sally. Unless you have found something definitive, it is not yet proven that Oma Pyburns parents were Edward Rebecca Neely.
The same goes for Austins parents being Austin Sr Elizabeth Pyburn Austin Jr brother Christopher marrying Nancy Pyburn.
Relatives of Austin Oma Pyburn Choate claimed Cherokee heritage, 1/2 through Austin full blood from Oma. They were all rejected.
The Southern Choates started in Anne Arundel Baltimore Co MD in 1680's William Pyburn sons John Richard are named in Anne Arundel Co. MD in late 1600's
but not sure if they knew each other then. The Choates Pyburns knew each other in Lunenberg Co. VA starting around 1748-49 when John Pyburn Sr sons John, Benjamin Jacob
moved there from Prince George Co. MD. Let me know if you have found anything definitive about these Pyburn/Choates.

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Kat (View posts)
Posted: 2 Nov 2000 3:25AM GMT
Mike, You seem to be knowledgeable and a serious researcher. Is there a connection between Edward Piburn wed to Rebecca Neeley in TN and the eastern Pyburns? Besides the Choate line is there any hint of Native American in other Pyburn lines? I found an Edward Pyburne listed among the first voters Clay county,Mo August 1822. This is from page 377, HISTOTY OF CLAY COUNTY. I think this is likely Edward Piburn of a Family Treemaker's site. Do you know more of Edward's ancestors? Thanks, Kat

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MichaelDavis611 (View posts)
Posted: 2 Nov 2000 2:48PM GMT
Edited: 24 Jun 2001 3:07AM GMT
There is some speculation that this Edward may be related to the Pyburns of North Carolina, namely Jacob or possibly Benjamin as they had lived in an area considered to be TN before statehood Jacob went on to NC.
There was a book written that stated that Edward Pyburn was father in law of Austin Choate in Fentress Co. Some believe that Oma Pyburn was d of Edward, I think more likely she was a sister. The Indian connection was claimed by the Choates related families in 1906 thru Austin Oma, claimed Austin was 1/2 Oma was full blooded Cherokee (all denied). If Austin Sr. was father of Austin Elizabeth Pyburn was his wife how did 1/2 full blooded happen? Choates Pyburns both can be traced back to Maryland in late 1600's early 1700's. Edward is listed in Knox Co. petition in 1799 with 3 Jacob's listed in 1804 in Buncombe Co. NC. If this Edward was brother of Christopher, why did Edward end up in Ray Co. MO as of 1821 Christopher in Wayne Co. TN in 1819. I would like to hear from anybody on opinions, speculations or records on the Pyburn's.

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Kat (View posts)
Posted: 2 Nov 2000 10:18PM GMT
Thanks for the reply. I am just getting in to genealogy. I started research based on family oral history. There is no connection to the Choate surnam however there is tradition that a Piburn ancestor was Native American. I am curious how tradition got started since ancestors descend through a single child Piburn union. My grandfather was raised by his paternal grandfather since he was the only offspring of a young Piburn grandaughter who died shortly after his birth. His German descent family told him of his scandalous Piburn Native heritage. It was a well know family " secret" in northern Missouri during the 1850's. The hush hush shameful story goes that the ancestors traded their native rights in exchange for land and the future permanent status of White. None of the family got into genealogy so I am doubtful it is based on the Choate line rumors. Now I suspect maybe the Piburn wife's husband was Native and it was more acceptable to have Native ancestry come from a distant female line. He roots supposedly from a French fur trapper/trader. Again I can find no links to any of this oral history. The husband is also listed among the first voters in Clay county, Mo. I can find no trace of his surname or roots before page 377 in HISTORY OF CLAY County. Of course I realize there was a trend toward creative spelling of surnames then. I am at a Brick wall on this rumor and these surnames. Some of the family still carries a slight ethnic appearance roughly 100 years from our supposedly halfbreed ggrandmother. All other lines seem to be documentablely strictly anglosaxon. The family story puts Edward as a fullblood. This is going to take some real digging! Thanks again. Kat

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Madmb (View posts)
Posted: 17 Nov 2000 7:25AM GMT
Edited: 2 Dec 2001 5:06AM GMT
mike!
think i have talked to you before. i'm related through austin and naomi's daughter sarsh. i have a copy of the page out of one hundred years in the cumberland mts. which says edward pyburn is austin's father in law.has anyone seen this book personaly to see what that info was based on?

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MichaelDavis611 (View posts)
Posted: 19 Nov 2000 7:43PM GMT
Edited: 24 Jun 2001 3:07AM GMT
I have not seen the original book about that, but if it suggests that Edward was Austin's father in law, this might lead to the belief these were the Choates of Fentress not Jackson Co. I do not find Austin Choate in any land transactions in early Jackson Co. so it may be possible he lived there for awhile. You had mentioned a deed for widow Pyburn, any idea on location?

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Madmb (View posts)
Posted: 20 Nov 2000 5:15AM GMT
Edited: 2 Dec 2001 5:06AM GMT
mike!
the deed you are asking about states that the land was in overton co.it was part of the donelson cove tract on the north side of the obed's river.this land joins land the widow pyburn then lived on. there are two dates on this .the first was 3 feb 1817.the second was oct.1832 in fentress court. fentress co. was formed from overton i think. i believe our choat's and pyburn's were in buncombe co. nc.then moved to overton-fentress co tn.then our austin and naomi went to jackson co.

pyburn choate - marshall

bluedragonfly45 (View posts)
Posted: 26 Mar 2001 6:58PM GMT
Edited: 24 Jun 2001 6:09PM GMT
Marshall,
Is the Sarah that you are referring to the one supposedly married to James Ramsey?

tami

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Madmb (View posts)
Posted: 27 Mar 2001 5:04AM GMT
Edited: 2 Dec 2001 5:06AM GMT
tami!
sarah choate,daughter of austin choate and naomi pyburn had meadow choate,father unknown.she then married william ramsey.sarah's sister elizabeth married james ramsey.
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