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Charlene Estep Lorino (View posts)
Posted: 4 Sep 2000 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Mushulatubbee, Susanna Grayham
I would like to see if anyone has information on a Chief Mushulatubbee who married a woman named Susanna Grayham. Their child - Annie V Lleweiellen married John Holiday. Their child - Sarrah Holiday married William Taylor... whose child Ascenathe Taylor married Thomas Shorter. Their child - Elizabeth Shorter(born 1838 in Rankin Co, MS) married Elisha Kelly (born 1837). Their 5th child George Kelly (born Oct 31, 1867 in Indianola, MS) married Lewella Kelly (born July 1872)and had 14 children - one was Charlie Hilton Kelly (my grandfather). Their daughter Launa Kelly is my mother (deceased). Would like to get any information on Choctaw heritage if possible. Any help would be greatly appreciated. We should be 7th generation decendants of Chief Mushulatubbee's from Mississippi.

Re: Info on Mushulabubbe

jamialane|M101434 (View posts)
Posted: 5 Sep 2000 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 24 Jun 2001 9:49PM GMT
Regarding Ann V. Llewellen;
She was the child of John Benjamin Stewart and Susan Brashiers.
The info regarding her being a daughter of Moshulatubbe is not correct.
It was supposedly noted in a family bible that she was the daughter of "A Choctaw Chief", but a name was not given as to which chief. This is supposedly how all this misinformation started.
There is a good amount of information in Dawes testimony regarding Ann Llewellen.
She is also mentioned in the American state papers, though I do not know which Vol.
She married at least three times, Samuel Llewellen, John Holliday and Joseph Plummer.
Ann's mother, Susannah Brashears married a David Graham.


Sarah Autra

jeannebritt59 (View posts)
Posted: 7 Sep 2000 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 26 Apr 2002 11:28PM GMT
Does anyone have any information on Sarah Autra married Joel Pridgen 1823. Sarah is daughter of Aianichia Ohoyoh supposly niece of chief Moshulatubbe.

Re: Sarah Autra

Jami (View posts)
Posted: 16 Sep 2000 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 23 Jun 2001 3:32PM GMT
Not sure there is a Moshulatubbe connection, maybe Mingo Pushcus?

From: Who Was Who Among The Southern Indians, Don Martini

Folsom, Nathaniel -Choctaw trader, was born in Rowan Co., NC, May 17, 1756,
the son of Israel Folsom. His father, a native of MA or CT, was met by Creek
agent David Tate on the Ogeechee River in GA on 3/31/1772. Israel was then
en route to MS with his wife and six children (1). He first settled among the
Chickasaws but later moved southward. He and a son, Ebenezer, were listed on
the 1781 Tombigbee census. Israel died on Cole's Creek in southern MS IN
1784. In addition to Nathaniel and Ebenezer, he left children named Edmond,
Israel (died at age 18), Sarah, and Abigail (2). Nathaniel apparently began
trading with the Choctaws in the early 1780's and eventually married two
Choctaw girls, nieces of Mingo Puscus. He was among the Indians by 1787 (3).
One wife Iahnecha, gave him children named Nathaniel, Molly, George, Samuel,
John, Robert, and William. The other wife, Ainechihoye, was the mother of
David, Rebecca, Rhoda, Israel, Adam, Issac, Jeremiah, McKee, Edmond, Emily,
Amziah, Lucretia, Elizabeth, Solomon, Delilah, Shame, and Polly (4).
Nathaniel witnessed the treaty of Mount Dexter in 1805 and in 1831 lived alone
near Robinson Rd in Moshulatubbe's District. He moved west with his sons
David and Israel, and died at Mountain Fork. I.T., Oct. 9, 1833 (5).
The Folsoms were a large and prominent family in New England and points south.
The 1790 New Hampshire census shows many members of the family including
David, Israel, Jeremiah, Nathaniel, and Peter. one Nathaniel Folsom was born
at Exter. N.H., in 1726 and died in May 1790. Ebenezer and Nathaniel Folsom
were taxpayers in Beaufort Co. N.C., in 1755 (6), with Ebenezer being a
member of the NC Assembly in 1779. Israel Folsom was a member of the militia
from Wilmington district during the Revolution. Israel and Nathaniel Folsom
were residents of Cumberland Co., NC, in 1790. Benjamin Folsom, a native of
NC, lived in Wilkes Co., GA, in 1773 (7), while Jeremiah Folson Sr. lived in
Duplin Co., NC, in 1761 (8).
(1) Mereness, 562.
(2) McBee, 136.
(3) S.C. Arthur, 7:355.
(4) McBee, 509; Cushman, 327-328.
(5) Cushman, 327-328; HISTORY OF BRYAN CO, OK, 277-278.
(6) Ratliff, EARLY NC TAXPAYERS, 1:70.
(8) SC DEED ABSTRACTS, 4:31. Alexander Reid, superintendent of Spencer
Academy in the Choctaw nation, wrote in 1854 that "the Half- Breeds are the
Aristocracy -- they rule the Nation -- posess the wealth of the land -- and
own the slaves. They are few compared to the fullbloods. The chief families
among them are the Folsoms, the Pitchlynns, the Harkins, the LeFlores, the
Garlands, and the Pickens. Of these, the Folsom family is by far the most
numerous. They are scattered all over the nation and they are related by
marriage to all other "half-breed families" (Box 12, Indian Correspondence,


Re: Info on Mushulabubbe

Fran Davenport (View posts)
Posted: 31 Aug 2001 5:18AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks for the information on Ann V.Llewellyn. I am a decendant of Virilla Taylor daughter of Sarah Holliday and William Taylor. Do you know or can you tell me where to get more information on Ann V. parents. I found Dawes testimony by using a search engine but I only saw her listed on the Roll for 5 year stay. What am I missing? Please help.


Fran Davenport (View posts)
Posted: 1 Sep 2001 4:06AM GMT
Classification: Query
I am a descendant of Isaiah Kelly who is the brother of your ELISHA Kelly. Isaiah married Permelia Hornsby and had a daughter Margaret Jane. Margaret Jane is my G-Grandmother. I have very little information on your line. I have the names of Elisha's children but nothing else. I would love to exchange info if you are interested. also would like to know if you have anything on Lloyd Kelly, the father of Elisha and Isaiah. Please contact me. Fran

Re: Info on Mushulabubbe

Rick Engelhardt (View posts)
Posted: 29 Dec 2001 10:31PM GMT
Classification: Query
I saw your message on the board dated 8/30/01. I am decended from Sarah Holliday and William Taylor. I have verified only as far back as John Taylor, their son. I don't know how this works. I would like to hear from you by email if possible.

Re: Info on Mushulabubbe

Richard J. Engelhardt (View posts)
Posted: 29 Dec 2001 10:46PM GMT
Classification: Query
I don't know how this works. I was told that I am descended from Annie V. Llewellyn. I have been unable to verify any further back than John Taylor, son of William Taylor, son of Annie. Do you get my email? I would like information. Thanks.

Re: Info on Mushulabubbe

Fran Davenport (View posts)
Posted: 30 Dec 2001 12:19AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello Rick,
Tried to E-mail you, but was unable to send to the E-mail address posted on this site. I am a descendant of Virilla Taylor child of Sarah Holliday and William Monroe Taylor. Sarah Holliday is the child of Annie V. Llewellyn and spouse #2, John Holliday. The name Llewellyn is from her first marriage. According to my information Sarah and William had 5 children. I have information on all but one (James M. Taylor). If this is what you are looking for I will be glad to share. Please e-mail me at

Look forward to hearing from you soon and would very much to have information on your line.


Re: Info on Mushulabubbe

BarbGrisham56 (View posts)
Posted: 14 Jan 2011 3:28PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Taylor, Walker, Hilton, Lewellyn, Holliday
I am a decendant of William Taylor and Sally/Sarah Holliday Taylor. Their Grandaughter Vinia/Lavinia Taylor,daughter of William Taylor 2 born abt 1822 and Rebecca Hilton, married into my Walker line through Wilson Walker. Do you know where Sally /Sarah Holliday Taylor is buired? Where I can find proof of whom her parents were? I have Annie V. Lewellyn as her mother but on the 1850 Simpson county census it has Sarah Taylor born about 1788 and born in Georgia. She is by herself so William Taylor died before 1850. The Annie V. Lewellyn I have was born after that. About 1813 died about 1833. Barbara
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