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Extra John, William and Robert Bruffey families - who are they?

Extra John, William and Robert Bruffey families - who are they?

fowlerc1 (View posts)
Posted: 15 Jan 2003 11:46PM GMT
Classification: Query
I am trying to tie up some loose ends in my database, and was wondering if anyone knew who these families were, or were related to them.

I am descended from John Bruffey m. Elizabeth Caul b. 1808 in Virginia, died in Iowa. I'm unsure exactly who his father is, though I'm sure we're related somehow to the Bruffey Clan from Virginia. Check my database on WorldConnect for more information about this family -- http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=fowlerc_...

Robert Bruffey b. abt 1765 of Augusta, VA m. ??? abt 1785

John Bruffey b. abt 1765 of Augusta, VA m. Margaret Adams 27 Apr 1785 in Augusta Co., VA. 1810 Census of Albermarle Co., VA shows a Margaret Bruffee with an enumeration of 2000021201 1 0. Who and where are all those children?

Hugh Bruffy b. 16 July 1788 d. 1855 m. Ann Ireland 20 May 1813 in Rockingham, VA. I've got an extract of their bible record, with lots of information about their kids.

There are also 2 Massachusetts Bruffey's -- William Bruffee died 1799 in Massachusetts, married to Elsie Wilcox abt. 1791

William Bruffee b. abt 1774? in Massachusetts? m. Alice Clark, ch: Jonathan McGee Bruffey.

Any ideas who these families are? Help!

Re: Extra John, William and Robert Bruffey families - who are they?

mthornhill4 (View posts)
Posted: 16 Jan 2003 4:58PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 22 Jan 2003 6:48PM GMT
Chris, Thanks for posting your database. It has been a reference for me and other researchers for years. Its "loose ends" are few in comparison to the wealth of data it contains.
Rick Brown's posting of the tax rolls at genweb Pochahontas make it clear the John who moved to Iowa was the son of John II (the brother of Mark and Patrick, and the one who carved many of the headstones at the Hill Family cemetery).
You were right to make the other John, born around 1810, the son of Mark. We had no family records of that connection, but Indiana and Illinois records confirm it. That also explains the two John Bruffey's married in 1833 in Greenbriar County.
The Augusta and Rockingham Bruffeys, Johh, Hugh Robert etc. are a different line. They include the Bruffey who post mortem was featured in 2 US Supreme Court cases. If related, it's back in the old country, where they all had a different name, maybe Brophy. The George who died in 1836 was from that line. The George Washington Bruffey who was the other son of Mark and resided in Monroe County WV into the 1880's, gave the land for the Bruffey Memorial Church there and was my gg-grandfather.
BTW, our common ancestor, John, husband of Elinor, from County Tyrone, was at Valley Forge per an on-line list. Gen. Anthony Wayne's regiment was from that area of PA
BTW, also, the Nevada pioneer Bruffeys are son and grandsons of your John.
Mike

Re: Extra John, William and Robert Bruffey families - who are they?

fowlerc1 (View posts)
Posted: 20 Jan 2003 6:37AM GMT
Classification: Query
Interestingly enough, my family line also has the tradition of 3 brothers who emigrate to America, marry 3 girls, the scotch, the Irish and the English girl, I believe. I've thought about this family legend, and have always assumed that the John Bruffey who married Elizabeth Hill (that well documented line) was one of those 3 brothers. The question I have is who are the other 2 brothers? I've heard reference to Mark, John and Patrick as the 3 brothers, all of whom were children of John & Elizabeth Hill, but all 3 of them were born in Virginia. I think the missing link we are looking for is John Bruffey's 2 brothers, and frankly, I haven't a clue even where to begin looking. I guess that's what keeps life interesting ;)

Re: Extra John, William and Robert Bruffey families - who are they?

mthornhill4 (View posts)
Posted: 22 Jan 2003 7:09PM GMT
Classification: Query
Chris, I think you've got most of what there is on this Bruffey line, which originates with the John Bruffey who emigrated from N. Ireland, fought in Revol. War under General Wayne, married Elinor "Nellie" Macdonald, settled in what''s now Pochahontas County, and had 3 sons, John (or John II, your ancestor, and George Alexander's), Patrick (Rick Brown's ancestor) and Mark (mine). Rick has posted photos of Bruffey Cemetery where Patrick, his wife Annie Slaven, a daughter and his mother Elinor are buried, as well as tax rolls that are conistent with when John II moved west. Patrick also appears in some legal documents and histories. I haven't figured out how to upload Bruffey part of my family treeworks files to world family tree. Will at least add John II and Patrick to what I've put up there for Mark. (:2084391 )
Mike

Re: Extra John, William and Robert Bruffey families - who are they?

fowlerjon (View posts)
Posted: 8 Feb 2005 9:29PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 11 Mar 2006 10:43PM GMT
Unfortunately, the dates of my John Bruffey (b. abt. 1808, died 1879) do not match up with him belonging to any of the families that I can find. John Bruffey, (son of John Bruffey and Eleanor MacDonald) marries in 1815, a bit too late to be the father of my ancestor, unless he had a previous unknown marriage. I can't seem to make my John Bruffey fit into any of the known Bruffey families. Any additional help would be wonderful.

Chris

John Bruffey 1808 - 1879

MThornhill (View posts)
Posted: 10 Feb 2005 7:07AM GMT
Classification: Query
Is your John Bruffey the one who moved out to Iowa, or the one who moved to Illinois and later to Texas? I believe the one who moved to Iowa was John Jr. in the Pochahontas Co. tax rolls. The John who lived in Adams Co Ill. was a son of Mark Bruffey. Both were thus grandsons of John and Elinor.

John Bruffey 1808 - 1879 Va-Mo-Io

Mike Thornhill (View posts)
Posted: 11 Feb 2005 3:37AM GMT
Classification: Query
I think he has to be son of John who was John Jr. on Poch Co tax rolls 1831 - 1844, married 1833 in Greenbrier Co., in Mo in 1850 and Iowa thereafter. I recall his son George Alexander's autobiog. said his father John and mother Elizabeth were from Pochahontas County WV. I don't know how tax rolls worked, was he put in in 1831 because he just turned 21 or 18 or because he had his own house? so maybe he's wrong on birth date, or John Sr (born 1790?) had a first wife, or married Eliz Hill before 1812. 1820 census shows John with 4 sons under 10yrs, yet all other genealogies show no sons before Bradf. Barton. so maybe a 1st wife.

Re: John Bruffey 1808 - 1879 Va-Mo-Io

fowlerjon (View posts)
Posted: 12 Jun 2005 3:07AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 11 Mar 2006 10:43PM GMT
Surnames: Bruffey
My John Bruffey was born 6 Feb 1808 in Greenbrier Co., Virginia. He died 25 Aug 1879 in Ottawa, Jackson, Clarke Co., Iowa. In 1850 he was in Missouri, and he settled in Marion Co., Iowa. I don't think he could be a descendant of John Bruffey/Elizabeth Hill, as he was born years before they married. I am still working on who his parents are - possible John Bruffey m. Margaret Adams, though I'd dearly love to find a court record showing his death/guardians of his young children, etc. Still hunting for that record.

Re: John Bruffey 1808 - 1879 Va-Mo-Io

Mike Thornhill (View posts)
Posted: 14 Jun 2005 5:56PM GMT
Classification: Query
The 3 reasons I think the tombstone is wrong and he is the son of John Bruffey and Eliz. Hill are 1. the autobiography of his son George Alexander, the Montana pioneer, who says his ancestors included 3 brothers John Patrick and Mark, and 2. that John Jr. was on the Pocahontas Co tax rolls from 1831 - 1844, (age 18 if born 1813) and 3. that his marriage to Eliz. Call in 1833 is in Greenbriar County, just south of Poch., where Mark Bruffey, a preacher, lived. Maybe he was younger than her and just backdated his birthdate 5 years, from 1813 to 1808 to avoid neighborly gossip. The John Bruffey - Margaret Adams marriage in 1785 I've assumed was part of the Charlottsville area Bruffey line, not immediately related to the John Bruffey who served at Valley Forge and settled in Pochahontas County and had the 3 sons Mark, Patrick and John.
Mike

Re: John Bruffey m Margaret Adams 1785 Augusta Co VA

Mike Thornhill (View posts)
Posted: 14 Jun 2005 6:07PM GMT
Classification: Query
what I have on them links them to the Shenandoah area Bruffeys: they appeared on a marriage bond for her mother's remarriage in 1789 and had at least one son Hugh, born 1788, who had at least one son George W. born bef. 1820 (who may have had same name as my gg-grandfather George Washington B. who lived in Monroe Co WV during the same time. You mentioned orphaned young children: in 1862 the Rockingham Co George W. and his wife both died, leaving 7 children, the oldest 13 yrs. Modern medicine may be extraordinarily expensive, but it sure is a good reason not to turn back the clock. Not that unspeakable tragedies don't happen every day anyway.
Mike
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