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Van Marter/Van Mater

Diane Thomas (View posts)
Posted: 25 Jun 2000 1:11AM GMT
Hello,

I am taking the advice of another ancestry researcher and posting this message in the hopes that someone out there is familiar with the name Elizabeth Bennett and recognizes it as the name of someone who married into their line of the Van Mater family. My understanding is, however, that my ancestral line of the Van Meteren/Van Mater etc. branch began spelling their VanMeteren surname as Van Mater after Elizabeth Bennett married into the family. Help from anyone is really appreciated. Diane Thomas

Elizabeth Bennet

bobforrest (View posts)
Posted: 10 Nov 2000 5:13PM GMT
Edited: 6 Jul 2001 11:39PM GMT
Hello, Diane--You don't give a date for your Elizabeth Bennett connection. I have an Elizabeth Bennet who was born June 1773, the daughter of William Bennet and Aaltje Van Mater. William's parents were John (Jan) Bennet and Eyke (Ida) Van Mater. Aaltje's first husband was Albert Polhemus, and her parents were Cyrenius Van Mater and Abigail Lefferts. Plenty more if your Elizabeth may have been a one-T Bennet from about this time.
Bob Forrest (forrest@whidbey.com)

Elizabeth Bennett

Diane Thomas (View posts)
Posted: 10 Nov 2000 5:40PM GMT
Hello, Bob,

Thanks for emailing me with this information; you are so good about doing this!! This is interesting...my geneology folders are with my sister at the moment, but, I recall having seen Elizabeth's maiden name Bennett also spelled with just the one T. Evidently, an email or two that I forwarded to you never reached you....are you sure you didn't get the email in which I noted all the information I had on Elizabeth from the death certificate? What I think I am dealing with is two separate family lines descending from the same common Van Meteren ancestor. Intermarriage of a male Van Meteren/Van Mater to a female also of Van Meteren descent through the mother's line. I am not certain yet....I am still doing all I can to find any reference to a Cornelius Van Mater whose wife was named Nettie. My cousins assure me that these two individuals are our grt.grt.grt. grandparents from whom our grt. grandmother Elizabeth Bennett sprang. This Elizabeth married Charles Smith Parker. HEr mother must have been a Van MAter and it is her parents who may have been Cornelius and Nettie Van Mater. It makes it even harder not to know Nettie's maiden name. Diane

Elizabeth Bennet -- 2

bobforrest (View posts)
Posted: 10 Nov 2000 6:25PM GMT
Edited: 6 Jul 2001 11:39PM GMT
Hello, Diane--If you will change "Cornelius" to "Chrineyonce" or "Kryn Janse", and then change "Nettie" to "Neeltje", you arrive at the parents of both Eyke (Ida) Van Mater and Cyrenius Van Mater, Kryn Janse Van Mater and Neeltje Van Cleef. Eyke and Cyrenius were sister and brother. Eyke married Jan Bennet and had William Bennet. Cyrenius married Abigail Lefferts and had Aaltje Van Mater.
So William Bennet married his cousin.

There are some Cornelius Van Maters, but I don't have a wife Nettie for any of them.

Continued good luck on your research.
Bob Forrest (forrest@whidbey.com)

Elizabeth Bennett

Diane Thomas (View posts)
Posted: 10 Nov 2000 6:32PM GMT
You Are Brilliant!!! Thank YOU so much!! I sure could conceive of Neltje becoming Nettie but do not recall seeing "Chrineyonce" before!!! My cousins will be ecstatic to read this!! Again, thank you, Bob; you have been such an enormous help to us! Diane Thomas

Elizabeth Bennet - 3

bobforrest (View posts)
Posted: 11 Nov 2000 8:43AM GMT
Edited: 6 Jul 2001 11:39PM GMT
Aw shucks, ma'am, 'tweren't nothin'. But all I'm doing is _suggesting_ here. If your sources clearly say the names are Cornelius and Nettie, you'll have to disregard my idea of Chrineyonce and Neeltje. But if the places and dates you have are right otherwise, there's a chance. As a descendant of Chrineyonce and Neeltje through their son John (Jan), I'm interested in what you find out.

Records show several cases where Van Mater cousins intermarried. So a Van Mater - Bennet cousin intermarriage is nothing unusual, in itself.

Good luck.
Bob Forrest (forrest@whidbey.com)

Elizabeth Bennett -3

Diane Thomas (View posts)
Posted: 11 Nov 2000 1:32PM GMT
Well, thanks,sir, for your information! Now, I am almost certain that Cornelius was the anglocized version of another name....I certainly did not connect it with Kryn but, I sure can now because of your suggestion...it makes sense to me. And, Nettie certainly sounds like a nickname of Neltje...why not Nellie? It was probably already too common for the time period. That's my thinking. I do know that the names Mabel and Nellie were common names for the family's favorite milk cow...all over the Northeast. My greatgrandmother was named Mabel and in fact, most of the dairy cow owners in the area of Maryland where she lived had cows named Mabel..she quickly reversed her first and middle names when she was old enough so she became Lillian Mabel. Plus, I have been told in my childhood that Van Cleef was a family surname, too. I know we need total unassailable proof. Also, I know thru my Sargent family side research that some family members spelled the name Sarjeant while other family members spelled it Sargent or Serjeant until it solidly again became Sargent as it was originally spelled when the first Sargent came to Massachusetts. (It may interest you to know, too, that there is another Bennett in my background....Frank Bennett Posey...and it too was originally spelled with one T..this Bennett line is on my mother's side rather than my father's side. Ha!

Elizabeth Bennett-3

Diane Thomas (View posts)
Posted: 11 Nov 2000 1:56PM GMT
Bob, if the Kryn Jans Van Meteren you are related to directly is the Kryn Jans Van Meteren who lived in Flatbush, or Brooklyn...and the same one who married Eitie or Ida Suydam in October 27, 1718...then we are definitely related...no doubt about it in my mind...Also, Bill Van Mater @icemanvm@juno.com who also posts many emails on the VanMater/VanMarter page is related to us...no doubt about this either in my mind. Now, I do plainly recall that the Elizabeth Bennet/Bennett in my ancestry was born in New Jersey and died in New Jersey at the age of 74 or 75. It is frustrating not to have my notes....anyway, she married Charles Smith PArker, my grt. grandfather. In the records I have seen, her father's name is spelled Cornelius...for certain....but, again, I am certain that he changed it to Cornelius as it sounded more American. Diane

Elizabeth Bennet - 4

bobforrest (View posts)
Posted: 11 Nov 2000 6:17PM GMT
Edited: 6 Jul 2001 11:39PM GMT
Except that I have John (Jan)Van Mater m. Ida Suydam on 17 October 1718, according to both Beekman's "Early Dutch Settlers of Monmouth County, NJ", p. 68, and the NY Gen. and Biogr. Record, Vol. 85, pp. 96+.

Elizabeth Bennett -4

Diane Thomas (View posts)
Posted: 12 Nov 2000 10:10AM GMT
Oh, boy, Bob, before I say anything else on this matter, I had better wait and go through everything all over again. I was going through as many of the messages I sent via the Van Meter message boards over the past year to find the items I forwarded to Vincent Van Meter (who also frequents the message boards and has written a book that I would like to have) in an attempt to find messages which I copied from documents. My sister is bringing my folders back today. Thank Goodness!!! Diane Thomas
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