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Carol Anne Payne (View posts)
Posted: 30 Dec 2000 3:09PM GMT
Are you related to the Pay's of Ramsgate Kent ? If so get in touch , maybe I can help you and maybe you can help me.

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Marian_Cope (View posts)
Posted: 7 Jul 2001 3:53AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Pay, Hills
I think I am related to the Pay family of Ramsgate. My grandmother, who was born 1895, used to refer to her Granny Pay ; and say the Family came from there. She had a legend that some of the family had done a bit of smuggling in the far-off days.
She was born in Mordern, Surrey, but used to holiday somewhere on the south coast with relatives as a girl. she also used to say there was a connection with France;
I have a birthday book that was her mother's, that has several Pay entries; Sadly none of them has a year date, but the book itself is c1890;
James (Isiah?) Hills Pay 13/4/-- (Hills was my grandmother's grandfather's name, and I assume he married a Miss Pay)
Maria Pay 15/5/--
Henrietta (Henriette?) Pay 25?1/ This is in distinctly French writing, and has the exclamation Vive La France beside it.
My grandmother also had a relative referred to as Miss Pay, who apparently worked as a companion to a lady named Stewart, again on the South Coast, possibly near Bognor.
Please let me know if this ties in with anything for you. If so, I would love to know more about the Pays of Ramsgate, also origin of name etc...I have a few photos of the Pay wing of the family (Victorian).. or is there a Dutch connection, with Van der Pay ?
Marian Cope

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Dr D J Pay (View posts)
Posted: 3 Dec 2002 10:01PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanet Pays are quite numerous on the IGI and you will find more on the familysearch site as they have just put the 1881 UK census online http://www.familysearch.org/
The 1901 census now works at the PRO site and is very useful as you can search by place name.
The http//freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl site also allows you to look for Pays by location.
You probably knew all that but as some of it has only been available for a couple of months you may find something useful.
The easiest way into it is to find someone in the 1901 census you know of - preferably someone living with their parents - or to identify someone whose birth certificate or marriage cert will get you back pre-1901.
The Ramsgate Pays are a bit of an unknown to me - I havn't typed them into the computer yet. Its not clear if they were there always (for this purpose pre 1700) or moved there from earlier groups of the family which seem to have been in the valleys around Canterbury and Folkestone. There are a lot of 18C Minster (village) Pays who lived on the border of Thanet but only a few miles from Ash where there were Pays in the 1680s - not clear which was chicken and which was egg or whether there are two flocks. Thats the basic problem with the Pays - they live in discrete areas but then everynow and then move exactly to where supposedly distinct groups live. To complicate matters further there is a line of Sussex Pays who drift to Shropshire and then come to Folkestone in the early 18C. Unfortunately (or fortunately for you if you are related to one as their lineage is pretty clear to 1420!) one group of these decamp to thanet before the 1881 Census. The Thanet Pays in turn seem to react to the railway and you will find them moving out to the Medway Towns, London and Sandwich, Essex and even further... as the 19C moves on. Have a look at the 1901 census and then the 1881 one with a name in mind and see who you find. Glad to help if you get stuck. If the Pay of Ramsgate you link to is shown as being born in Folkestone or Dover I will point you to the line back to 1420.

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Craig Pay (View posts)
Posted: 23 Jan 2003 2:25PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Pay
Well my name is Craig Pay, though my surname comes from my step-father Steven Pay (name changed by deed poll when my mother re-married).

I know that Steve originally comes from Ramsgate, so could be nearer to what you want.

If you need any more info, email me.

Craig

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5hilly21 (View posts)
Posted: 6 Apr 2003 3:26PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 12 Feb 2009 2:47PM GMT
Surnames: Pay, Hunter
I saw your message re Pay family. My grandmother was Rose Pay daughter of Clarence Charles Pay, she was born approx 1890. She married my grandfather William Ferdinand Hunter on the 11th July, 1909, in the District of Thanet Register Office.Kent. I am trying to find children of the marriage as I know they split up. I
know of Harry Clarence Hunter born 1910
and my dad Eric William born 17th Dec 1913.
Hilary

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pay (View posts)
Posted: 25 Jul 2003 6:56AM GMT
Classification: Query
My husbands grandmother was always refered to as granny pay, but as far as we know never left Ramsagte, we have been trying to find a thomas micheal pay born margate married a ellenor Hayward, most of the present Pay family have passed away during the last 2 years.

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alancameron67 (View posts)
Posted: 28 Dec 2010 7:58PM GMT
Classification: Query
further the migrations of pays, a bit late in the day but in case you still into this...I know a branch of our pays went to surrey and my tree is public so it can be looked at
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