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Franz Hornung from Bavaria to Cincinnati in 1830s

Franz Hornung from Bavaria to Cincinnati in 1830s

@@diannbiltz@presys.com (View posts)
Posted: 21 Mar 2003 3:00AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 26 Jun 2004 1:16AM GMT
Looking for anyone who knows where Franz came from in the 1830s or may be related to him or siblings.

Re: Franz Hornung from Bavaria to Cincinnati in 1830s

janyork9446 (View posts)
Posted: 1 Mar 2007 4:54AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: hornung
There was Andrew Hornung in Cincinnati in 1859 who came from Hanau, Prussia. He married Caroline Raber in Cincy and moved to Indiana. He immigrated in the late 20/s or early 30's. Might be a place hint for you. Jan

Re: Franz Hornung from Bavaria to Cincinnati in 1830s

xd22577 (View posts)
Posted: 24 Apr 2007 12:09AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: hornung, horning
I've got a Georg Hornung who came over in 1837 - I don't know where he journeyed to, his first child, that I know of - was born in 1840 in KY, the next two in MO then he died before the 1850 census. I don't know who his family was in Germany.

Julie
sunnydaze1@hotmail.com

Re: Franz Hornung from Bavaria to Cincinnati in 1830s

diannbiltz (View posts)
Posted: 26 Jun 2009 11:04PM GMT
Classification: Query
please give me any information you have as this might be a sibling

thank you

Re: Franz Hornung from Bavaria to Cincinnati in 1830s

xd22577 (View posts)
Posted: 26 Jun 2009 11:38PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: hornung, kerking
it's not much - but ALL I have is below. The children names that I know of are: John, Jacob, Margaret & George.

Passenger list: I wasn't able to figure out who's cousin came over with them, or where she ended up, and the passenger list that I believe is George, it just lists 42, 2, 2, 2 - of course this is one of those lists where they made up their own columns... [castlegarden.org has him as George HOUNUNG]

Immigration: [from Reinhard Mayer - 12/18/2006]

The master weaver Georg Hornung and his wife Margaretha from Oberwallenstadt intend to emigrate to North America, together with their cousin Margaretha Kerking (widow of a weaver).
Possible claims against them shall be declared at court until Wednesday, 14 June 1837, otherwise they will not be considered.
Lichtenfels Royal Bavarian court, date: 19 May 1837

This newspaper clip is "Intelligenzblatt für den Obermainkreis 1837, Beilagenband Seite 615".
It is a gazette for Oberfranken district for the year 1837, supplement volume page 615

Re: Franz Hornung from Bavaria to Cincinnati in 1830s

MarieVanLaeys82 (View posts)
Posted: 21 Aug 2009 8:39PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Hornung/Reinhardt/Beck/Grob/Shafer/
Bavaria borders changed over the years and what was once Babaria can also be part of Hesse. In the past months we have discovered that several towns where our Hornung family immigrated from is now Hesse but in earlier times considered Bavaria. I am told that that are also known as Franconians. The German government allowed certain monies to go toward compliling family histories in some area the one our Hornungs were found in was actually Bieber/Burgberg and upon further investigation found they were from other nearby towns. We found several surnames connected to our Hornungs as listed in surnames.

Re: Franz Hornung from Bavaria to Cincinnati in 1830s

diannbiltz (View posts)
Posted: 27 Jul 2010 8:33PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Biltz, Hornung, Karman, Payne, Drury, Jardine in Cincinnati
I just noticed your post on Ancestry on the Hornungs and hope you are still available to answer my questions.

I am still having trouble finding my Franz Hornung(b. abt 1805) and wife Henrietta ????? b. abt 1810)in Bavaria, who emigrated to Cincinnati in the 1830s. I did find out he had his son christened in St John's Unitarian Protestant Church or St John's German Protestant Church, 12th & Elm Sts., Cincinnati, Hamilton, Ohio, USA - Over the Rhine area on May 4 1840(but parents possibly could have been Catholic in Bavaria Germany, and he and his wife Henrietta were buried through same church in late 1800s.

I was told in SLC that Hornungs were probably Catholic and by Cincinnati people possibly from the Pfalz. I have been working on this brick wall for over 30 years and am not any closer than before. I have much information on George Francis Hornung and his descendents, the line of which has ended. My husband and his sister, our son will be the last of this heritage - but their name is Biltz - result of a Biltz/Hornung marriage.

Your email intrigued me as I have a list of about 20 cities that I can check for him in. Are Bieber and Burgberg two different cities? I have checked the FHL catalogue and get both of them as being in two different parts of Germany. What section did you find your Hornungs in? And did you use FHL records or write to Germany directly. I plan a trip to SLC in December and hopefully I can find him this time. The experts in SLC were not too helpful when I visited last year.

Hope you can give me some good clues and strategies. The last recommendation I had was to research all the other people listed on the 1840 census with him that might have come from Bavaria Germany also. Needless to say, this census sheet is not a very good copy of that census and difficult to dicipher.

Deperate in Oregon.

Diann Hansen Biltz

Re: Franz Hornung from Bavaria to Cincinnati in 1830s

reereevl (View posts)
Posted: 27 Jul 2010 11:32PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Hornung/Beck/Reinhardt/Schaffer/Grobe
The Burburg I refer to was at one time a village which now is part of Bieber and no longer exists as it's own name. There are Roman Catholic and non Catholic Hornungs Bieber is a Catholic community. My cousin visited a non Catholic community a few miles away to investigate a connection, the town genealogist said our Catholic Hornungs would not be related. There is most certainly a dividing line between the both religions and communities. Our Hornungs were Catholic when coming to the US but things changed for my grt grandfather when he married a Lutheran. Our thoughts about this that it was a possibility it could be some changes took place in generations living in Germany as our (4 times) grt grandfather hasn't showed up in Catholic records as yet.
So, before you go to Germany have as much information on Franz and his church connection as possible as well as where he was born. Check church records and naturalization records in the states otherwise you will be spinning your wheels in Germany.

Re: Franz Hornung from Bavaria to Cincinnati in 1830s

reereevl (View posts)
Posted: 29 Jul 2010 1:25AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Hornung/Reinhardt/Grosch/Beck/

Diann,
I have a passenger list that includes some of our Hornungs and found a Franz what looks like Hornung 32 yrs old as well as a Helene Helwige 36 yrs old. The Franziska our of Bremen arrived in the port of Baltimore August 5, 1846. A great number of the passenger's where from Byrain. This Franz had the occupation of tailor There is a town listed but I am afraid I cannot make it out, it doesn't indicate they were boen there but the last residence. Our grt grt grandmother was on this list and ended up in Pottsville, Pa and married my grt grt grandfather just a few days after arriving on a coal barge going back to pick up another load of coal.
My grandfather had mentioned family possibly in Ohio and the mid West. I remember reading the name George Hornung in a German Newspaper published in Pottsville, Pa., but in the census he didn't show up.

Re: Franz Hornung from Bavaria to Cincinnati in 1830s

HorningJohn (View posts)
Posted: 2 Oct 2011 6:34AM GMT
Classification: Query
I have to agree the Hornung clan in Germany has been divided
for 500 years over religion. Half catholic and half evanglical Lutheran. The main Hornung clan living in NE Baden or NW Bavaria along the border depending on the which side of the bible their superior german guff is family law and custom. Those that had enough of drafts, royalty, which family side was right, jobs, and just getting away from annoying relations came to US.
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