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Clovis, Chlodwig, Riparian King of Cologne

Clovis, Chlodwig, Riparian King of Cologne

AFulsang (View posts)
Posted: 13 May 2007 11:06PM GMT
Classification: Query
I hope I am posting this in one of the right spots....I have come across Clovis the Riparian, King of Cologne. I have found that his parents are either Theodemir Magnus Frank Chief and Valentina Justina OR Pharamond King of Westphalia and Argotta Queen of Franks. His lived from either 398-448 OR 375-420.

I am wondering if anyone has come across him and discovered who his parents are or if these are two different people.

Any direction would be appreciated! Thank you!

Re: Clovis, Chlodwig, Riparian King of Cologne

Luke Scalone (View posts)
Posted: 20 Mar 2011 12:55AM GMT
Classification: Query
Not much is known about the ancestry of Clovis as he was the king of the Salian Franks as Europe was falling into the Dark Ages. Clovis was the first Christian Frankish King though and created a family line which later formed the kingdoms of Austrasia (not to be confused with Austria) and Neustria, which were two kingdoms that often fought. The Kingdom of Burgundy, also a kingdom of Clovian descendants acted as the peacemaker. Later, Austrasia and Neustria, after many transformations became the kingdoms of France and the Holy Roman Empire.

Re: Clovis, Chlodwig, Riparian King of Cologne

Mohnbauer (View posts)
Posted: 13 May 2011 10:58AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 13 May 2011 11:56AM GMT
it looks like there is much known....but not sure if with 463-511 is the same person you mean. i found no with 398-448 OR 375-420.
parents of Clovis "The Riparian" King of Cologne are
Childaeric I King of the Franks and Basina of Thuringia:
http://www.gurganus.org/ourfamily/browse.cfm/Childaeric-I-Ki...

you can go line back left above at PARENTS
http://www.gurganus.org/ourfamily/browse.cfm/Merovech-King-o...
and so on (you need some time)- coming about people of the old testament
and it ends up(unbelievable) at Adam and Eve........
http://www.gurganus.org/ourfamily/browse.cfm/Adam/f365
how was it possible to research.....
but i know that it´s said that the descendants of Jesus
Christ are going to the Merowinger line.
http://www.welt-geschichte.de/html/die_franken.html
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merowinger
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlodwig_I.
also based on the legend of Maria Magdalena (Jesus) and of the holy grail.
http://www.iphpbb.com/foren-archiv/11/660800/659880/die-mero...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Grail

Re: Clovis, Chlodwig, Riparian King of Cologne

Luke Scalone (View posts)
Posted: 18 May 2011 12:26AM GMT
Classification: Query
Those parents and ancestors that you have shown have never been proven to be the parents of Clovis, let alone even exist. Most of it is surrounded by a mist of legend and lore.

Re: Clovis, Chlodwig, Riparian King of Cologne

Mohnbauer (View posts)
Posted: 18 May 2011 9:12AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 18 May 2011 9:13AM GMT
"Most of it is surrounded by a mist of legend and lore."

clear that it´s not proven.:o) and how i wrote "unbelievable".
for that time-period of middle-age and specially also times later back never can be found really PROVEN results. i for myself wonder where are the person, who created the link with the line ending at Adam&Eve, found this info.....no more comment!
it doesn´t matter - for me personally the theme not of really interest.

Re: Clovis, Chlodwig, Riparian King of Cologne

Luke Scalone (View posts)
Posted: 18 May 2011 9:34PM GMT
Classification: Query
I agree wholeheartedly, I just assumed that the person who posted this thread would want factual evidence. I love tracing my history back to the Roman Emperors and the Kings of Troy, but that does not necessarily make it true, sadly. :(

But, there are links to old English and Welsh kings from the BCE era who are descendants of migrants from places in Europe, who came there after the fall of Troy. That much can be assumed, just not necessarily the Royalty.
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